New Skin and Another Big Change!

Tuesday October 26th, 1999

The new skin is in the 10-26 builds. Visit our builds page to get the latest. I find myself not minding the whitespace around the sidebar's border as much as I expected I would. However, there is one issue that troubles me. When you move the sidebar's "splitter", instead of moving a "ghost" of the splitter, you move the splitter itself. the problem is that if you're expanding the sidebar, the splitter disengages from the top and bottom border of the sidebar, leaving a white gap. If you shrink the width of the sidebar, the splitter moves past the right edge of the top and bottom borders of the sidebar, and the effect is just as bad. The answer would be to either 1) expand and contract the sidebar in realtime as the splitter is moved (probably slow), or 2) manipulate a "ghost" of the splitter during resize, and when the mouse button is released, move the actual splitter and resize the sidebar.

The second bit of news is that they've made more changes to the "incremental reflow" of the rendering engine. Now, the page will start rendering content even before reaching closing tags. This means a dramatic decrease in the time taken to get content displayed, and it's a great benefit when loading pages with long lists of data. But I find the content shifting disconcerting (check out, and for examples if you have a 56k connection or slower), and the decrease in scrollbar responsiveness is vexing. Hopefully that will be working on these issues in the coming weeks leading up to the beta.

#11 incremental reflow

by Anon

Tuesday October 26th, 1999 9:34 PM

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No. Breaking the ad banner model will only benefit users and Mozilla in the short run:

1. Sites will develop new banner technology that gets a higher score, and will begin mixing advertising and editorial more often. One of the big advantages of the banner ad model is that ads *look* like ads. Sites that don't have this capability, well, who needed them anyway?

2. Advertisers and sites that depend on advertising revenue will discourage Mozilla, either by active support of IE-specific technology, or simple benign neglect. Why should Yahoo or Alta Vista give a damn about a browser deliberately engineered to sabotage their revenue stream?

3. When the ad banner model goes, what replaces it? More pay sites? Mandatory registration with demographic information and no opt-out for junk mail? Sites just plain shutting down?

If you want to get rid of ads, install and improve the several proxy servers designed for ad blocking. Don't poison Mozilla with this, because in the long run it only makes IE look more and more reasonable for the companies that decide whether or not you can use their Web.