Mozilla 1.2.1 Released
Monday December 2nd, 2002
mozilla.org today released Mozilla 1.2.1, an updated version of Mozilla 1.2. The 1.2 release contained a bug that caused DHTML and other layout problems when dynamically writing into a dynamically created element. The 1.2.1 release fixes this bug.
It doesn't look like any of the builds are available yet as of 11:50 PM EST. Maybe someone jumped the gun??
#2 Re: Nothing to download
Monday December 2nd, 2002 10:10 PM
"It doesn't look like any of the builds are available yet as of 11:50 PM EST. Maybe someone jumped the gun??"
They look available to me as of 12:10am EST.
#3 No windows downloads available (12:30AM ET)
Monday December 2nd, 2002 10:33 PM
I see a RedHat download available and that's it. Someone did jump the gun. Downloads are not yet ready for all platforms.
#4 Re: No windows downloads available (12:30AM ET)
Monday December 2nd, 2002 10:37 PM
I see a Windows download: <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pu…-win32-1.2.1-talkback.zip>
#19 Re: Nothing to download
by cedesguin <email@example.com>
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 8:01 AM
Yep. The "shrink to fit" (in print preview) is much less efficient than in previous 1.01 release. So I stick to the old one.
1.2.1 is a completely different branch (note the <b>second</b> number). You can't ask an orange to do an apple's work.
#6 Mozilla.org windows links working now (1:13AM ET)
Monday December 2nd, 2002 11:13 PM
I'm downloading it now
Now if only every company could fix bugs so fast ;o)
#8 Yes, the hard disc access when closing
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 1:15 AM
It's still there.
Well I may have to try the Nightly build....
Well, the Nightly build works. Thats was a relief.... no more noisy harddrive access.
#10 Re: Yes, the hard disc access when closing
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 1:51 AM
Yeah realease notes state the difference between 1.2 and 1.2.1 is the DHTML bug. Mozilla is the first app that has made me read release notes most of the way through.
Can someone post how the 1.0.2 development is going. Specially in regard to performance and memory leaks...I plan to roll it out on pretty low cal machines. Roadmap says it shut hit the streets in a couple of days.
Would be cool could for someone to post the bug list thing with the bugs crossed out (I cant navigate bugzilla for crap...they say its more of a developers toy) like the one someone did when someone was asking how 1.2 was going.
Well this is the list of bugs currently targeted at 1.02: <http://bugzilla.mozilla.o…-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=>
And these are the bugs currently set to block the 1.02 release: <http://bugzilla.mozilla.o…-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=>
And Bug 168057 <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168057> lists a number of enhancements currently only on the commercial (Netscape?) branch that should be checked into 1.02.
But I guess what you're really after is the extremely sparse (currently on three bugs on its blocker list) "Make Mozilla 1.0.2 Not Suck" bug <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161807>
Hope these help you out.
(I found this by using "1.0.2 not suck" as the search string on the Browser component of the Bugzilla search page)
if you're installing Mozilla on low-end machines then surely the leaner 1.2.1 is the beast you want to be harnessing. lotta work gone into that code base to make it faster and smaller that won't have gone into the 1.0.x branch
So I guess 1.2.1 is leaner and would have a smaller foot print then the soon to be released 1.0.2. But 1.0.2 will be more stable? Is that the right way to think about it?
Yes 1.0.2 will be more stable than 1.2.1, but not necessarily in the way that you mean.
Mozilla 1.2.1 has had a number of bugs fixed and internal changes made that make it faster, better and almost definitely less crash prone than 1.0.2 will be.
The stability advertised on the 1.0.x branch of Mozilla has little to do with user perceived stability (ie lack of crashes, freezes and data loss) it is more to do with the amount that the code inside Mozilla has changed. One of the guarantees that Mozilla.org have made is that they will make very few changes to the way that Mozilla 1.0.x works inside and the way that it talks to external and add-in programs. This means that other companies that either want to use Mozilla as the basis that they create another application from, or make add-ons to Mozilla, can be assured that nothing will be changed that will make Mozilla incompatible with their program. Only small, low impact bug fixes will be made, nothing more.
This internal stability has a price, though and that is that the 1.0.x Mozillas will not have any of the big changes made to them that can make the browser suite faster, less crash prone and add great new features. These big changes are only made to the main Mozilla trunk which is where 1.1, 1.2 and eventually 1.3 will come from.
So the choice is between 1.0.2 which is essentially 1.0 with a few security and bug fixes, or 1.2 which has a whole load of new features in addition to the security and bug fixes. Of course you take the risk that these new features _may_ possibly have introduced other bugs.
#15 Problem? What problem?
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 4:39 AM
I never noticed the DHMTL bug in 1.2, but then I don't visit a whole lot of those evil DHTML sites :)
#16 Re: Problem? What problem?
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 6:25 AM
CNN.com couldn't show any of its banner ads. That actually was kinda nice. LOL.
#17 Works like clockwork...
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 6:28 AM
1.2.1 is definitely cool. It seems faster than previous versions, for sure. Type Ahead Find is ultimately what got me to finally let IE go...:)
#37 Re: Works like clockwork...
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 1:48 AM
Yes, Mozilla 1.2.1 Rocks! Until now I have been using second class browser in my Linux boxes, but not any more! New RedHat 8.0 with XFT and mozilla-xft is just plain beautiful. And it is fast - I didn't realize this until now, when IE took ages rendering one page that Mozilla showed in less than a second.
Big thanks for the whole Mozilla organization, and specially for the Linux developers!!!
build bar still lists 1.2b :)
#20 Blows away Palm Desktop on Windows!!!!
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 8:40 AM
After installing Mozilla 1.2.1 I could no longer open my Palm Desktop software. My Palm software lost track of my User Profile and I had to Hotsync from my PDA as if I were using Palm Desktop for the first time. Beware!!!! I'll put in a Bugzilla entry. But I lost all Palm Desktop entries I had made that were not already on my PDA :o( .
#21 Bugzilla entry added #183227
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 9:02 AM
You can read more details here: <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183227>
#27 Re: Blows away Palm Desktop on Windows!!!!
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 2:42 PM
It certainly does. The fix for this is to search the registry for ns_temp (It will actually find your %TEMP%\ns_temp) and change that path back to where your palm software is installed.
The caveat is that this then breaks Mozilla! I had to rebuild my Mozilla profile, after I changed this key, and this is backtracking from 1.2.1 to 1.2. I couldn't even get 1.2.1 to run for me after installation. I got the splash screen, and then nothing, no disk activity whatsoever.
I have a feeling that 1.2.2 will be out shortly too. :(
This has been found to be an Uninstall issue rather than an install issue. The problem happens actually when you uninstall 1.2 or 1.2.1 . The bugzilla report gives details on ways to work around the problem.
#60 Been there, done that!
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 9:05 PM
And I submitted comment #13 on just what the heck is going on with this bug and how to fix it! :)
When I made the bug entry I had no idea it was actually an uninstall problem. When I could not open Palm Desktop as I had just done some hours before the only thing I could remember was "I installed a new version of Mozilla....oh ohhhh..."
#61 Re: Blows away Palm Desktop on Windows!!!!
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 11:59 PM
I ran the 1.2 installation directly on top of a Mozilla 1.1 installation and Palm Desktop 4.0 seems to still work for me. It was running at the time that I did the upgrade, if that makes any difference. Later, I ran the installer for Mozilla 1.1 on top of the 1.2 installation to downgrade, and later that day, I ran the installation for Mozilla 1.2.1 when it was available on top of my Mozilla 1.1 installation. Palm Desktop 4.0 continued to work without a hitch, and I have rebooted once, too.
But it's good to see, from reading the other replies, that the problem has been narrowed down so that it can be corrected. I just wanted to make myself a "success" data point because I did the same upgrade, more-or-less. I'm running Windows XP Pro at work.
#22 Mozilla animated link on top right doesn't work
by aroolaart <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 9:50 AM
Afetr loading the Mozilla 1.2.1 on Win2000, I found that the link on the Mozilla animated logo doesn't work... I get:
"The file / can not be found"
If it matters, I also have the PrefToolBar loaded.... That's all I have found so far...
I've got Mozilla 1.2.1 on 2 Win2K (SP3) machines and don't have that problem at all.
#24 Oh joy, all email attachments are gone in 1.2.1!
Tuesday December 3rd, 2002 10:34 AM
Now that Moz doesnt use the XUL header pane for messages anymore, any email attachments beside images or text are invisible! Yeah, just the new feature i wanted.
Now emails say "blahblah.xls attached", yet they dont show inline (of course), nor do they have a link or icon of any kind in the message body. Back to 1.1 i guess.
This is on Win 2000/1.2.1
#35 Re: Oh joy, all email attachments are gone in 1.2.
by gadeiros <Harald@Henkel.DAH.UUnet.DE>
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 1:30 AM
Is this a joke ?
I cannot access email attachments ?
If this is true, how could 1.2 pass any QA tests ?
Doesn't seem to be true, at least for me. I can access my attachments in the little "Attachments" listbox just fine, just like before.
#52 Re: Oh joy, all email attachments are gone in 1.2.
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 10:23 AM
btw, I suspect this might be a theme problem. (if you're not using one of the default themes) Try upgrade to one that's compatible with 1.2b+.
With mozilla 1.2.1 I've had several "freezes" (had to do a UNIX " kill" on it) when I press the "Get Msgs" button in the mail program.
I'm running on a Linux box with "movemail". This works fine with 1.1 so I've moved back to that...
#33 1.2.1 w/ new pinstripe theme in OSX...
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 12:54 AM
...gives chimera a run for it's money. i'm really impressed with the 1.2.x release, and with the new icons and layout of the pinstripe theme. IE is starting to become very, very obselete on my mac.
i can't find the mail or address book or irc. it just freezes.
after restarting my pc (runing win 98) i found mozilla froze on the splash screen.
running 1.1 again
I presume you followed the release notes and did not install over a previous build?
#43 Re: freezing
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 6:12 AM
Try a creating a new profile. The solution to most problems is to create a new profile.
While that's true, it's not very desirable, especially if your have many email accounts. Usually I just remove cert7.db, history.*, XUL.mfasl, Cache/* in the profile directory and usually it takes cares of my problem. :)
Also might need to change to one of the default themes before the upgrade.
#55 Re: blink blink
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 11:33 AM
Don't forget localstore.rdf. :-)
#39 How do I change the default profile location?
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 3:30 AM
I'd like to continue using 1.01 and have a second profile directory (say .mozilla121) for playing around with 1.2.1. Is there a way to do this other than recompiling Mozilla?
#41 Re: How do I change the default profile location?
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 4:24 AM
As you're talking about recompiling I'm guessing you're a linux and not a Win32 user, so the syntax on this command may be slightly different.
But if you try running "Mozilla -ProfileManager" the Profile Manager dialog box should pop up and let you create a new profile in a different location (assuming that you've got sufficient rights to whichever location etc)
Once you've done that it might be easier to change your Mozilla icons tyo point to "mozilla -P profile_name" to save having to select from the list each time.
See <http://www.mozilla.org/qu…/testcases/cmd-line/#unix> for more useful command line switches.
#42 Re: How do I change the default profile location?
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 4:54 AM
Thanks for the answer! However, when using a second profile with a newer browser both would be sharing the same .mozilla directory. This contains a file called "appreg" (at least under Linux) in which -- according to <http://www.gemal.dk/mozilla/files.html> (i.e. <http://www.gemal.dk/mozilla/files.html>) -- Mozilla keeps track of its installed components.
I fear sharing this file might confuse the two Mozillas, that's why I'd still like to have separate .mozilla dirs.
#50 Re: How do I change the default profile location?
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 10:10 AM
AFAIK there's no problem sharing that file between versions (between 1.0 and 1.1 at least, I haven't been using 1.0.x for quite a while).
However, personally I prefer to create another system account for this. (I am doing this for the nightlies.) Just su to that account and run mozilla there...
Marquee?... BLINKING MARQUEE at that??!! I never thought Mozillazine would sink to such lows :-(
#45 Re: Marquee? Blink?
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 6:48 AM
I agree, it definitely hurts my eyes. Besides it is damn hard to read.
I agree too.
When do we get the rainbow stripes, the winking smiley faces, the under constructions signs...
#46 Mozilla incompatible with Zone Alarm
by tushoph <email@example.com>
Wednesday December 4th, 2002 7:56 AM
I am attemping to run Mozilla v1.2.1 with Zone Alarm Pro v3.1.395. The good news is that ZA doesn't seem to cause v1.2.1 to freeze and crash like it did with v1.0. The bad news is that there seems to be an incompatiblity with the e-mail quarantine feature on ZA. I was testing for catching Klez preferred extensions and found that with Mozilla the attachments had been caught by ZA and given it's phony extension names, but, clicking on the atachments did not bring up the ZA dialog box that lets you open them. Instead, I only got the Windows "Open with" box. Retransmitting and opening the e-mail with Netscape 4.7 worked correctly. I am wondering if there is an incompatibility with Netscape 7.0, too. Guess that another subject. I have sent this info to Zone labs but I am not sure they even know Mozilla exists.
marquee is evil.
#63 1.2.1 keeps reloading pics...
by metalcrypt <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Thursday December 5th, 2002 2:32 PM
Interesting. Ever since I switched to 1.2.1, whenever I visit my web site ( <http://www.metalcrypt.com> ), it reloads the images - every time. Cache settings are OK.
Anyone else having a weird one like that?
#64 Re: 1.2.1 keeps reloading pics...
Thursday December 5th, 2002 2:43 PM
#65 Re: 1.2.1 keeps reloading pics...
by metalcrypt <email@example.com>
Thursday December 5th, 2002 3:48 PM
That didn't do it either. :( I'll try a clean reinstall when I have a few minutes...
#66 How to "import" saved mail & Accounts?
Thursday December 5th, 2002 3:52 PM
I have just installed Mozilla 1.2.1. Before uninstalling Mozilla 1.1 I copied the mail folder, addresse-book files and the bookmark file into another folder. IAfter installing Moz1.2 I pasted the bookmark file on top of the Moz1.2 and it 's all right. However, I don't know how to recover my mail, address books and mail accounts though I've pasted the mail folder and all the other files I'd copied into the new profile folder (I called it a different name -- I deleted the Moz1.1 profile).
Can anybody help? I'm no computer expert so I'd appreciate if you could keep your instructions clear!! I'm not sure my own description of what I did is terribly clear!!
#69 Re: How to "import" saved mail & Accounts?
Sunday December 8th, 2002 3:21 AM
Above Message Edited : As I wonder if my quirky message was understood at all, here is a hopefully clearer version of it:
I have just installed Mozilla 1.2.1. and uninstalled Moz1.1 beforehand.
Before uninstalling Mozilla 1.1, I copied the mail folder, address-book files and the bookmarks file in a safe temporary folder. After installing Moz1.2, I pasted the bookmark file on top of the Moz1.2 and it 's all right. However, I don't know how to recover my mail, address books and mail accounts though I've pasted the mail folder and all the other files I'd copied into the new profile folder (I called it a different name -- I deleted the Moz1.1 profile).
Can anybody help? I'm no computer expert so I'd appreciate if you could keep your instructions clear!! Thanks! PS. It is rather surprising that this Mozilla devoted forum is so unresponsive, if I may say so. Or is it a very select club? Well, it shouldn't be -- Mozilla deserves a wide audience. Actually here's a link that could help some of us, which was given by a "newbie" on net-integration Forum: <http://www.vorstrasse91.c…tips/mozillaprofiles.html>
1.2.1 (Linux) is crashing constantly.So far Iwas not able to figure out what causes these crashes: A page that causes a crash loads fine after I restart Mozilla. So I went back do 1.2b again, which behaves a lot better than the official release. Has anybody else experienced something similar?