Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird Released

Wednesday November 8th, 2006

Security and Stability updates for Mozilla products based on the Gecko 1.8 branch have been released.

Firefox 1.5.0.x will be maintained with security and stability updates until April 2007. All users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to Firefox 2.

For more information, refer to the Mozilla Firefox Release Notes and the Mozilla Thunderbird release notes.

#11 Re: Latest version

by ajpaterson

Sunday November 12th, 2006 1:02 PM

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Krissilver wrote: "Ajpaterson, what one deems basic functionality is opinion" ... "So rants on features you don't want as if they somehow harm you are deemed nearly 100% irrelevent"

I was merely expressing my "opinion" and I am sorry that you saw it as a rant - it was not intended to be. (I had hoped that my final paragraph would have indicated that but obviously not!) I certainly never said that extending the functionality was in some way "harmful" - just that it seemed to be slowing the browser down. Surely you are not claiming that it is possible to add significant functionality into the core browser without increasing the memory footprint and/or affecting the performance? To take spellchecking as an example (since you mention it): to do fast spell-checking, you need to hold the dictionary in memory (increased memory consumption required) - the alternative of leaving the dictionary on disk will slow down the processing. This ignores the extra code and processing involved in the spell-checking itself.

I used Netscape Navigator since I bought version 1.2 (it wasn't free then) right up to version 4.72, Mozilla since Milestone 8 (before it even had a version number as such) and then Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox. I even contributed Mozilla bug reports to Bugzilla in the milestone days so I think that I can "cope with ... developing Web browsers"! (grin!)

Phoenix (Firefox) when it came out was a revelation! It stripped the browser down to its bare essentials and there was nothing that could match it for speed. I am just disappointed that, since then, it seems to be getting larger and (in my experience) slower with each release. Of course, some of this may be a necessary penalty for adding extra security to the browser and, if so, I do not have a problem with it. I freely admit that new features like spell-checking in forms are of no interest to me but they are obviously useful to others - that is why I was asking if they could not have been implemented as optional extensions.

krissilver also wrote: "Firefox (2) is safer, more stable, and takes little to nothing away to what 1.5 had".

Since I believe that the code that attempts to reject third-party cookies is still in Firefox 2 and they have just removed the setting (Allow cookies from originating Web site only) from Options, that is probably true. However, the developers have now admitted that this important security feature does not work very well (if at all) but, despite the fact that this feature is available in other browsers, the bug has been marked as WONTFIX! As you brought up the subject of "harm", I have to say that I believe that the fact that this feature does not work is potentially damaging to my security and, if a developer who could have fixed this spent time instead on implementing some non-security feature that was simply a nice-to-have, then you could say that implementing that feature has "harmed" me.

Although you will have to take my word on it, I am totally calm as I write this so, once again, this is not (intended to be) a rant. Also, I repeat that I think that Firefox is an excellent browser and, apart from using IE for Windows Update, I use nothing else. Just because I do not want to upgrade immediately does not mean that I do not appreciate the work of the Mozilla developers so I also "highly applaud Mozilla and a great release and developing a great browser for a developing web".